Right now in Sudan there are two governments, one in the North and one in the South. Why North Sudanese flag is everywhere here and no a single South Sudanese flag? or is it indirect way to tell us that you are not belong here?


I hope moderators have time to make some changes.

2 governments doesnt mean 2 states. DOH

Dear TTG,

The SDB is a Sudanese discussion board and it welcomes all walks of people of the Sudan, (South, North, West or East). The flag :flag: is a representative of Sudan as a Country. As far as I know Sudan is one country, represented by a federal government and it has one flag.

In all international representation of Sudan, the Sudan flag has been presented as the official Sudan flag.

Dear TTG,

The SDB is a Sudanese discussion board and it welcomes all walks of people of the Sudan, (South, North, West or East). The flag :flag: is a representative of Sudan as a Country. As far as I know Sudan is one country, represented by a federal government and it has one flag.

In all international representation of Sudan, the Sudan flag has been presented as the official Sudan flag.

I respect your view, but it is not the way most of us(South Sudanese) see it. The flag and it's description have nothing to do with Africans.

wuz up brother TTG? you can get your old name back,

TTG, can't you at least let us enjoy the new SDB for a couple of days without any negatively??:rolleyes: beside as muza said this is the flag of Sudan regardless of what any of us think!!!, So jus put a sock on it....:) loooooooool @u

Right now in Sudan there are two governments, one in the North and one in the South. Why North Sudanese flag is everywhere here and no a single South Sudanese flag? or is it indirect way to tell us that you are not belong here?


I hope moderators have time to make some changes.

New forum, same old ignorance :mad:

The flag :flag: is a representative of Sudan as a Country.
You're damn wrong, sir.
This flag represent the arabized Nubian govt in the North not the whole Sudan as you may think my friend.

I hope there must be a change on that unless if this SDB belongs to arabized Nubians only.

TTG, can't you at least let us enjoy the new SDB for a couple of days without any negatively??:rolleyes: beside as muza said this is the flag of Sudan regardless of what any of us think!!!, So jus put a sock on it....:) loooooooool @u

Dear afriend!

It is an issue not just only paining, TTG alone but many including myself who never condone the flag you think is for Sudan. I am not sure why a flag that only represent particular people be an everybody symbol? If Muaza is genuine and just, he should do something about it! What you see here is not just a fight which must last here but will drag on until that flag is ripped off in representing the Sudan unless what we have in mind change! God bless!

Jakor, I can understand some people feel that the falg doesn't represent the...and that is cool...but it isn't up to Muaz to decide....he is just like the rest of us, he has no say on the flag....And as ithave been said before this is the officially know Sudanese flag. May in the New Sudan we will have a different flag....Do you get my point?(it is hard to explain:( )

Dear TTG,

The SDB is a Sudanese discussion board and it welcomes all walks of people of the Sudan, (South, North, West or East). The flag :flag: is a representative of Sudan as a Country. As far as I know Sudan is one country, represented by a federal government and it has one flag.

In all international representation of Sudan, the Sudan flag has been presented as the official Sudan flag.
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Muaz !
Is it a discussion board owned by a sudanese or a sudanese discussion board ?...The difference is big in legal terms .. A sudanese can own a car
while living abroad but it won't be a sudanese car ..

Greetings all,

In fact I have to express a personal feeling of unease at the national flag being stuck all over the new SDB. I hope it is not meant to be an emphasis on patriotism. I just hope!

I respect your view, but it is not the way most of us(South Sudanese) see it. The flag and it's description have nothing to do with Africans.





Till 2011, the GNU needs a united flag.

The South in case of separation should look for its own flag, it can be the current SPLM Flag:

http://www.geocities.com/sudan_dinkanet/splm16.jpg


Or the Pan-African Deutsche look's:

http://www.geocities.com/sudan_dinkanet/pan_african_deutsch9.jpg


Or the SPLM Jamaican look:
http://www.geocities.com/sudan_dinkanet/splm_jamica_style2.jpg

One more looks

http://www.geocities.com/sudan_dinkanet/splm_jamica_style26.jpg





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Dear TTG,

The SDB is a Sudanese discussion board and it welcomes all walks of people of the Sudan, (South, North, West or East). The flag :flag: is a representative of Sudan as a Country. As far as I know Sudan is one country, represented by a federal government and it has one flag.

In all international representation of Sudan, the Sudan flag has been presented as the official Sudan flag.



Muaz:



I suggested the following flag that include colors from both currant official Flag and the revolutionary flag of the SPLM, to be the one for transitional period of “GNUâ€‌, not only to represent what you had described, but also indeed to unite the people till the referendum.



Maybe, it will be a good step for a through unity!


View it below:





http://www.geocities.com/sudan_dinkanet/panafrican_21.jpg





Anyway, this is just to inform you that I am one of those seeking change.







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Sudan is in transition - under current arrangements it has one national flag (the one displayed).

For those who want an alternative new more genuine flag for a New United Sudan – the march is a long one and Sudan.net is probably the wrong venue for such a fight since it is a private organization owned by other than Muaz.

I am sure Muaz was not trying to send any messages beyond that this site is sudan.net and is one that deals with Sudanese concerns the other images encompass much of diversity in our country.

To those who don’t see themselves as Sudanese or stupidly think that this is the flag of North Sudan they may consider a move to a place that is more suited to their inclinations.

Ps: Ya Muaz, should you become inclined toward adding other flags - I for one expect to see the flags of all political organizations in the Sudan after all there is more to all of us than just Ingaz and SPLM.

Scoop_T,

Personally I want the next flag for Sudan to be adopted by referendum, after all national symbols should be the subject of consensus.

Ps: Why do you have yellow twice on your flag?

TTG

First A country must have one Flag

Second: If there is seperation, then you can have your own Flag. But for now this is your Flag and you have to respect it.


:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:

TTG

First A country must have one Flag

Second: If there is seperation, then you can have your own Flag. But for now this is your Flag and you have to respect it.


:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:

U-Lady,

Please read the description of your flag before telling me that I am an arab

Sudan is in transition - under current arrangements it has one national flag (the one displayed).

For those who want an alternative new more genuine flag for a New United Sudan – the march is a long one and Sudan.net is probably the wrong venue for such a fight since it is a private organization owned by other than Muaz.

I am sure Muaz was not trying to send any messages beyond that this site is sudan.net and is one that deals with Sudanese concerns the other images encompass much of diversity in our country.

To those who don’t see themselves as Sudanese or stupidly think that this is the flag of North Sudan they may consider a move to a place that is more suited to their inclinations.






Dear Sultan



I agree to those simple 'n logic terms, although I know there are some ones


having there agendas, but the thing I can't swallow easily why some southern


bro's can't get it simply?


أ„أˆأ‹

Sudan is in transition - under current arrangements it has one national flag (the one displayed).

For those who want an alternative new more genuine flag for a New United Sudan – the march is a long one and Sudan.net is probably the wrong venue for such a fight since it is a private organization owned by other than Muaz.

I am sure Muaz was not trying to send any messages beyond that this site is sudan.net and is one that deals with Sudanese concerns the other images encompass much of diversity in our country.

To those who don’t see themselves as Sudanese or stupidly think that this is the flag of North Sudan they may consider a move to a place that is more suited to their inclinations.

Ps: Ya Muaz, should you become inclined toward adding other flags - I for one expect to see the flags of all political organizations in the Sudan after all there is more to all of us than just Ingaz and SPLM.

Scoop_T,

Personally I want the next flag for Sudan to be adopted by referendum, after all national symbols should be the subject of consensus.

Ps: Why do you have yellow twice on your flag?


Sultan:



I do not think discussing an opinion is a fight.

Muaz own this forum thankfully, and he offered us under certain condition to discuss our general opinion.

However, we actually come here with our argument and I brought my images with to discuss this flag matters.

Yes, this forum is not a place to decide national matters, but a small room to show our thought.

Nevertheless, a flag is a public symbols and I agree with your point to adopt this by a referendum, but it dose not make any logic if we wait for this mater till southern self-determination referendum?



Repeating a color in a flag dose not change its neither meaning nor dose the symbol.e.g. (See the US Flag only counting).




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Sultan:




I do not think discussing an opinion is a fight.

Muaz own this forum thankfully, and he offered us under certain condition to discuss our general opinion.

However, we actually come here with our argument and I brought my images with to discuss this flag matters.

Yes, this forum is not a place to decide national matters, but a small room to show our thought.

Nevertheless, a flag is a public symbols and I agree with your point to adopt this by a referendum, but it dose not make any logic if we wait for this mater till southern self-determination referendum?



Repeating a color in a flag dose not change its neither meaning nor dose the symbol.e.g. (See the US Flag only counting).




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Sudan still one country at the moment, this :flag: stil 2011 southerners

wow, I never know there was other that the one and only flag :flag: . Honestly, this is the first time I hear that there is a different flag for different parts of Sudan.

Sudan still one country at the moment, this :flag: stil 2011 southerners

Pan-Arab colours:-
Red: martyrs of the greater land
Black: Mahdi revolution
White: "peace"
Green: islamic "prosperity"
http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif

Pan-Arab colours:-

Red: martyrs of the greater land

Black: Mahdi revolution

White: "peace"

Green: islamic "prosperity"

http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif




lol, I don't know your flag, but am sure it has the same colors, becuase most flags have these colors!

Pan-Arab colours:-

Red: martyrs of the greater arab land

Black: Mahdi revolution

White: "peace"

Green: islamic "prosperity"

http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif

This discussion board is more Arabized and Islamized than before because of the newly installed Arab Keyboard on SDB and the flag which merely symbolize Islam. Plus the new Avatar these people imposed on my signature.

This discussion board is more Arabized and Islamized than before because of the newly installed Arab Keyboard on SDB and the flag which merely symbolize Islam. Plus the new Avatar these people imposed on my signature.
lol, bro. look at your picture, how does it look. A man with a jalabiya and Imma????!!!!!!

This discussion board is more Arabized and Islamized than before because of the newly installed Arab Keyboard on SDB and the flag which merely symbolize Islam. Plus the new Avatar these people imposed on my signature.


my dad used to wore jallabaiya, but he was a muslim.

so take it easy my friend.

JIJURY

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Muaz !
Is it a discussion board owned by a sudanese or a sudanese discussion board ?...The difference is big in legal terms .. A sudanese can own a car
while living abroad but it won't be a sudanese car ..


Dear Halfawi,
It is a Discussion Board owned by a Sudanese dedicated to Sudanese, with the majority of the discussant been Sudanese. So I see it fit to use Sudan's flag.





I suggested the following flag that include colors from both currant official Flag and the revolutionary flag of the SPLM, to be the one for transitional period of “GNUâ€‌, not only to represent what you had described, but also indeed to unite the people till the referendum.



Maybe, it will be a good step for a through unity!


View it below:


Anyway, this is just to inform you that I am one of those seeking change.
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Dear Scoop-Tiger,

I personally would prefer and vote for a change of the flag if we vote for unity in 2011 and the flag to be be more representative of Pan-African colors.

But at this stage, the current Sudan flag remains as the representation of Sudan in all international affairs.

I currently see the SPLM flag more of a political movement flag, like the Ummah, NIF, DUP e.t.c. flags.

I personally would prefer and vote for a change of the flag if we vote for unity in 2011 and the flag to be be more representative of Pan-African colors.

But at this stage, the current Sudan flag remains as the representation of Sudan in all international affairs.

I currently see the SPLM flag more of a political movement flag, like the Ummah, NIF, DUP e.t.c. flags.




Very true I could not disagree with what you said at all. If we are going to put every political movements flag here we are going to have around 15 flags atleast. The sudan national flag is the only known sudanese state flag recognised internationally.

North Sudanese are the deciders.

They decided to impose islam over all Sudanese
They decided to impose their language ..........
They decided to culture over ..............
They decided to impose the islamic and arab flag ......
They decided to name Sudan as an arab country.
And if they could move Sudan, Sudan would be sharing borders with Syria,Jordan and Iraq right now.
http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif

North Sudanese are the deciders.

you are not making any sense at all :roll:
TTG, if you think this board is for Northerners who are Islamists Arabists terrorists...etc of your BS. why dont you just leave this board and find you somewhere else?

Dear Sultan




I agree to those simple 'n logic terms, although I know there are some ones


having there agendas, but the thing I can't swallow easily why some southern


bro's can't get it simply?



أ„أˆأ‹



Greetings - I think some of the attitudes here just reflect plain immaturity and no amount of commonsense is likely to fix that.

North Sudanese are the deciders.

They decided to impose islam over all Sudanese
They decided to impose their language ..........
They decided to culture over ..............
They decided to impose the islamic and arab flag ......
They decided to name Sudan as an arab country.
And if they could move Sudan, Sudan would be sharing borders with Syria,Jordan and Iraq right now.
http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif



Dear TTG

Fisrt of All, the language is not the northerns language and Islam is not the northerns religion. The laguage is called The National laguage and Any country should have a national language where by all different parts of the country speat it and can communicate with it. In this case, is nobody's fault that the muslims are the majority making there laguage the national laugaue. And I don't think the government, or anyone threatened anyone who speak their own language. We in the north have ours too and on the side we speak Arabic. No one complained!!! You might say, they wont complain beciase they are muslims, I'll tell there are non muslims as well in the north whose first and mother togue is Arabic. Don't naiively chew on what you hear from other people!!!

To my amazement , no body wanted so far to consider the legal implications
of dealing with the national flag !.. There is a law governing it as where , when and who is authorised to raise it .. If your raise the flag , anywhere in the world , the concerned authority of that locality can question you ; that is one and on the other hand we want the board free from all constraints including this sham patriotism which some may use to restrict freethinking .

North Sudanese are the deciders.


They decided to impose islam over all Sudanese

They decided to impose their language ..........

They decided to culture over ..............

They decided to impose the islamic and arab flag ......

They decided to name Sudan as an arab country.

And if they could move Sudan, Sudan would be sharing borders with Syria,Jordan and Iraq right now.



TTG :flag:


Why dont you launch another all out SPLM war and use your guns and bullets to force mauz to concede to your demands :lool: :lool:

The bullets managed to bring your demands in the south. Use the guns and bullets against Mauz and after 20 years you will be able to have the John Garang flag:flag: in the Northern sudanese websites and boards.

:flag:

Sultan:





I do not think discussing an opinion is a fight.

Muaz own this forum thankfully, and he offered us under certain condition to discuss our general opinion.

However, we actually come here with our argument and I brought my images with to discuss this flag matters.

Yes, this forum is not a place to decide national matters, but a small room to show our thought.

Nevertheless, a flag is a public symbols and I agree with your point to adopt this by a referendum, but it dose not make any logic if we wait for this mater till southern self-determination referendum?



Repeating a color in a flag dose not change its neither meaning nor dose the symbol.e.g. (See the US Flag only counting).




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Scoop_T

I am all for finding universally acceptable symbols by the Sudanese, but instead of instigating a malicious fight were separatist are the only winners as TGG intends – I suggest we pay more attentions to the things that have direct meaning to well being as Sudanese – Sudan is being ripped apart deliberately by two partners that were supposed to preserve and promote its unity.

Ps: As for the design of flag – I personally don’t like the color yellow as a star or stripe

that is one and on the other hand we want the board free from all constraints including this sham patriotism which some may use to restrict freethinking .
Thanks Halfawi
That what I meant when I admitted that I don't feel at ease with the national flag, any national flag, being waived around me.
I had uncomfortable times in this nice spot in Baltimore because of my neighbor’s flags, he was friendly though :)

Thanks Halfawi
That what I meant when I admitted that I don't feel at ease with the national flag, any national flag, being waived around me.
I had uncomfortable times in this nice spot in Baltimore because of my neighbor’s flags, he was friendly though :)


Guys, just let it go...Don't you see it, now matter how many we say thing about this; nothing is going to change as lang as this website is being run by an arab guy from the north...why did you think he made the changes from old webdesign to this more arab reflection website? His answer are what many of them have already say "go luchned your own website" or what some called it SPLM website...So, i find it really a wasted of time try to reason when someone who is centred minded...let thir flag stay as long as it you don't use it or as long as it's not flying anywhere in the South...Just don't use the stupid icons....

Dear Halfawi,
It is a Discussion Board owned by a Sudanese dedicated to Sudanese, with the majority of the discussant been Sudanese. So I see it fit to use Sudan's flag.




Dear Scoop-Tiger,

I personally would prefer and vote for a change of the flag if we vote for unity in 2011 and the flag to be be more representative of Pan-African colors.

But at this stage, the current Sudan flag remains as the representation of Sudan in all international affairs.

I currently see the SPLM flag more of a political movement flag, like the Ummah, NIF, DUP e.t.c. flags.

Dear Muaz,



I am happy that you admitted the Sudanese needs symbols that represent them well.

Indeed, this is a great answer, but is better to enjoy respecting each other for the coming two years, before the hatred decide to break away the south. Honestly, you ever thinking that, this will be a great lost to our being together for all these years. I think reserving this desire of pro African flag until referendum may fuel the anger and may be credit for secessionist



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[quote=Scoop-tiger;3145]Dear Muaz,




I am happy that you admitted the Sudanese needs symbols that represent them well.

Indeed, this is a great answer, but is better to enjoy respecting each other for the coming two years, before the hatred decide to break away the south. Honestly, you ever thinking that, this will be a great lost to our being together for all these years. I think reserving this desire of pro African flag until referendum may fuel the anger and may be credit for secessionist


I think maybe some of the ignorants on this board can learn something from your view....But instead, they just want keep impossing toward others...We'll were we're heading soon......

The same reply on the other post

http://www.sudanforum.net/showpost.php?p=2353&postcount=30

Right now in Sudan there are two governments, one in the North and one in the South. Why North Sudanese flag is everywhere here and no a single South Sudanese flag? or is it indirect way to tell us that you are not belong here?


I hope moderators have time to make some changes.

brother TTG
the flag dispalyed is sudan flag
the flag you are refering to is spla flag
it dosent even represent south sudan it is only spla flag
we all knows that spla dose not represent south sudan in general
there are other factions in the south not supporting the spla or it is flag
just like in the north
there is flag of the oma party
there is flag of national unity party (aletihadi)
so those flags are not sudan flags
sudan flag is only one till the refrandom
that time either it will one country with the same flag or they will be two flags two countries

Guys, just let it go...Don't you see it, now matter how many we say thing about this; nothing is going to change as lang as this website is being run by an arab guy from the north...why did you think he made the changes from old webdesign to this more arab reflection website? His answer are what many of them have already say "go luchned your own website" or what some called it SPLM website...So, i find it really a wasted of time try to reason when someone who is centred minded...let thir flag stay as long as it you don't use it or as long as it's not flying anywhere in the South...Just don't use the stupid icons....

RAM~MI~RAN
I don’t think you got it right.

I agree with many here that the flag of issue here is the National Flag of Sudan.
It’s unfortunate that you think of it as an issue of segregation, in fact your views are alarming in terms of you opting to extreme partiality instead of embracing a fruitful discussion.

Although my point wasn’t at all about the orientation of the national flag, I, as much, followed the other views and thought of how those how negotiated for example the shape, content and value of the new (interim) currency managed to reach a consensus that transformed, at least in shape, the once very ideological Sudanese Dinar to an impartial, rather secular, Sudanese Pound.Similarly, I thought of how some views here concerning the national flag, including by the way the views of the webmaster himself, can have some reasonable impact on creating a new flag.

Scoop_T

I am all for finding universally acceptable symbols by the Sudanese, but instead of instigating a malicious fight were separatist are the only winners as TGG intends – I suggest we pay more attentions to the things that have direct meaning to well being as Sudanese – Sudan is being ripped apart deliberately by two partners that were supposed to preserve and promote its unity.

Ps: As for the design of flag – I personally don’t like the color yellow as a star or stripe


Sultan:



I respect your appetite!



What about this Nile's State Symbol look :





http://www.geocities.com/sudan_dinkanet/nile_state_style1.jpg








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Scoop_T,

I am more incline toward something more peaceful!

How about stretching the blue into a narrower rectangle from top to bottom and give what ever you find other than spears and shield a more exotic color!

Ps: You still have yellow!!

Scoop_T,

I am more incline toward something more peaceful!

How about stretching the blue into a narrower rectangle from top to bottom and give what ever you find other than spears and shield a more exotic color!

Ps: You still have yellow!!



You want me to design the May Regime’s flag... no way.

There is no compromise!




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True color of Mauze or typical attittude of arabwannabes are revealing themselves. Khartoum flag which you claim to represent the whole Sudan is not accepted in many part of the countries, except the big lion nif and her supporters such as muaze and Ana.

RAM~MI~RAN
I don’t think you got it right.

I agree with many here that the flag of issue here is the National Flag of Sudan.
It’s unfortunate that you think of it as an issue of segregation, in fact your views are alarming in terms of you opting to extreme partiality instead of embracing a fruitful discussion.

Although my point wasn’t at all about the orientation of the national flag, I, as much, followed the other views and thought of how those how negotiated for example the shape, content and value of the new (interim) currency managed to reach a consensus that transformed, at least in shape, the once very ideological Sudanese Dinar to an impartial, rather secular, Sudanese Pound.Similarly, I thought of how some views here concerning the national flag, including by the way the views of the webmaster himself, can have some reasonable impact on creating a new flag.


Have you ever read the discription of the so-called sudan flag? let me remind you. Here is what your elit have constituted about the flag:

Red stands for struggle and the martyrs of the Sudan and the Great Arab Land.
White stands for Islam, peace, optimism, light and love.
Black stands for Sudan and the Mahdiya revolution (the Black Flag).
Green stands for prosperity, good and agricultureI can see the point why you should embrace it but it's the 180 degree opposite of what it's for me and othere who will never fly it at their backyard: never, never...Everyone know why Muez but it's ok though...this is just a website...Let see what happen in reality...I'm sure that flag is not flying anywhere in the south but this a arab own website...So i guest Muez has the right to dictate the whole thing to his/nothern favorite....Let just waite 4 more year peacefull and we'll go out separte ways....Oh yeah, that's offcourse by all mean necessary...

As I've always said, the problem in Sudan isn't and has never been the goverment. You have those who in public shed crocodile tears over Darfur yet secretly support the NIF's offensive and deny the need for UN troops. The only thing these people have managed to achieve in 50 year's is to provide undenilable proof that they're incapable of ruling.

You want me to design the May Regime’s flag... no way.


There is no compromise!




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Scoop_Tiger,

The flag adopted during the Mayo dictatorship is the one shown at the top of DB (Green triangle, red, white, and, black)!!

Your blue square deprives the design of any symmetry - it is like two flags stuck together.

If you made the blue square into a full width rectangle you may have something.

Ps: Compromise on what exactly??

Because there are no such thing as Southern Sudan it's Unity now latter you can cry..

Dear Southerners,

I don't think that this is a right time or right place for us to argue with this issue "Sudanese flag that only represents" the minority population of the country. It's already listed in the list of desired change, in which we the southerners don't need our children to live on. The time for this is 20011 when everything will be discussed or changed for good. In 20011 it will be up you the southerners to keep both the language and flag the same; otherwise you will be blamed yourselves.

Regards,
Chea

Dear Southerners,

I don't think that this is a right time or right place for us to argue with this issue "Sudanese flag that only represents" the minority population of the country. It's already listed in the list of desired change, in which we the southerners don't need our children to live on. The time for this is 20011 when everything will be discussed or changed for good. In 20011 it will be up you the southerners to keep both the language and flag the same; otherwise you will be blamed yourselves.

Regards,
Chea


Who has a plan untill 20011?


I will not be there!


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Dear Southerners,

I don't think that this is a right time or right place for us to argue with this issue "Sudanese flag that only represents" the minority population of the country. It's already listed in the list of desired change, in which we the southerners don't need our children to live on. The time for this is 20011 when everything will be discussed or changed for good. In 20011 it will be up you the southerners to keep both the language and flag the same; otherwise you will be blamed yourselves.

Regards,
Chea


I hope you mean, 2011.





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North Sudanese are the deciders.
They decided to impose islam over all Sudanese

They decided to impose their language ..........

They decided to impose their culture over ..............

They decided to impose the islamic and arab flag ......

They decided to name Sudan as an arab country.

And if they could move Sudan, Sudan would be sharing borders with Syria,Jordan and Iraq right now.

http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif

North Sudanese are the deciders.
They decided to impose islam over all Sudanese

They decided to impose their language ..........

They decided to impose their culture over ..............

They decided to impose the islamic and arab flag ......

They decided to name Sudan as an arab country.

And if they could move Sudan, Sudan would be sharing borders with Syria,Jordan and Iraq right now.

http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif




Not with that fake color they have bro, those coutries could gather them and put them in small twon called Alzebear, near the border of Kuwait and Iraq, beleive me, thats what they did to slaves they brough them form Africa, and some Pakistanian whom became muslims until today they call them Without or Bedoun in Arabic.

Not with that fake color they have bro, those coutries could gather them and put them in small twon called Alzebear, near the border of Kuwait and Iraq, beleive me, thats what they did to slaves they brough them form Africa, and some Pakistanian whom became muslims until today they call them Without or Bedoun in Arabic.

Tamboura,

It has been said by historians that the slaves who were taken to Middle East are larger than Europe and American combine. The slaves in Middle East were not allowed to have babies, many have died for harsh labour, diseases and murder by their masters.

Believe me, if *Olive(Zaytoon) is obsessed with the words slave and chimp, it is because this words are his nickname in the muslim and arab world.

Tamboura,

It has been said by historians that the slaves who were taken to Middle East are larger than Europe and American combine. The slaves in Middle East were not allowed to have babies, many have died for harsh labour, diseases and murder by their masters.

Believe me, if *Olive(Zaytoon) is obsessed with the words slave and chimp, it is because this words are his nickname in the muslim and arab world.



Your brother Tamboura was in love with daughter of a son of a former slave from that town not far away from Basra, town in south of Iraq, staid there three days they told me how their grandfather came from Africa but didn't know the name of a country because their masters arabs didn't allow them to teach their kid some of them though they were from Sudan, I went like Yaa Sudan ya gwad. I believe you without question bro.

Right now in Sudan there are two governments, one in the North and one in the South. Why North Sudanese flag is everywhere here and no a single South Sudanese flag? or is it indirect way to tell us that you are not belong here?


I hope moderators have time to make some changes.
What does "South Sudanese" flag look like? And why is it important to have on here?:cool:

Pan-Arab colours:-


Red: martyrs of the greater arab land

Black: Mahdi revolution

White: "peace"

Green: islamic "prosperity"

http://www.arabbay.com/images/arabmap.gif

"I hope you mean, 2011."





Scoop,

Would you calm down please? This is something very easy for someone very smart like you to re-correct if the commentator wrote it wrong, than asking such a question. Take it easY!

Chea

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Sultan:



I do not think discussing an opinion is a fight.

Muaz own this forum thankfully, and he offered us under certain condition to discuss our general opinion.

However, we actually come here with our argument and I brought my images with to discuss this flag matters.

Yes, this forum is not a place to decide national matters, but a small room to show our thought.

Nevertheless, a flag is a public symbols and I agree with your point to adopt this by a referendum, but it dose not make any logic if we wait for this mater till southern self-determination referendum?



Repeating a color in a flag dose not change its neither meaning nor dose the symbol.e.g. (See the US Flag only counting).




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I would like to invite you for an extend discussion, first please, read:



http://www.sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=617












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the logo is very nice and creative.

Hi there! My name is Heather and I live in the US. I am hosting a benefit tonight for the lost boys of sudan from the nashville TN area. I came online to look up the sudanese flag because I wanted to color the cupcakes I was making to match them, however, now after having seen this "discussion" I am at a loss as to what is right and what is wrong and do NOT want to offend our guests....... help!!!!!!!!

tritak here's our first flag we had it for 14 yrs post independance wy not use it for your project

:flag: 1st January 1956 :flag:


http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6504/16799600mf6.jpg

http://flagspot.net/images/s/sd-1956.gif


First flag of independent Sudan

blue over yellow over green tricolour

adopted 1 January 1956 - 1970

Hi there! My name is Heather and I live in the US. I am hosting a benefit tonight for the lost boys of sudan from the nashville TN area. I came online to look up the sudanese flag because I wanted to color the cupcakes I was making to match them, however, now after having seen this "discussion" I am at a loss as to what is right and what is wrong and do NOT want to offend our guests....... help!!!!!!!!

"Lost Boys" is a term used for those who come from South Sudan.

and South Sudan's flag is this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg


Any other flag will be offensive to those lost boys.

tritak here's our first flag we had it for 14 yrs post independance wy not use it for your project

:flag: 1st January 1956 :flag:


http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6504/16799600mf6.jpg

http://flagspot.net/images/s/sd-1956.gif


First flag of independent Sudan

blue over yellow over green tricolour

adopted 1 January 1956 - 1970




That's a beautiful flag, but for the lost boys, I would use this flag:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Flag_of_South_Sudan.svg

Omega, the flag that you are trying to show is not showing up on my screen at all... do you have a link to the picture maybe??? I appreciate everyones help... the LAST thing I want to do is offend them, they have been through enough!

I found a pic of a flag that is the new flag of south sudan it is black white red white green..... is this the pic you are trying to share?

I found a pic of a flag that is the new flag of south sudan it is black white red white green..... is this the pic you are trying to share?

tritak,

Just type: South Sudan at wikipedia, it will show the real flag of South Sudan.

or just google:South Sudan's flag, and the first three flags on the very top are the real flag.


the flag has a yellow star on a blue triangle and three equal lengths of Black, Red and green, the red has two small white stripes on its eges.

Omega, thank you SO much for your time, I truly appreciate it!

It is the reason why Southerners voted 99% for separation at the referendum.

يا حولا ما قادره اصدق لمن شاركت فى البوست كانت سنة ٢٠٠٧

يا حولا ما قادره اصدق لمن شاركت فى البوست كانت سنة ٢٠٠٧


Despite my ability to read your Arabic writing, are you telling me Darfur, Nuba mountain, and Blue Nile are the best to remain in your marriage commitment to black people of Sudan and you do not care if the bad one (the South) separate? Enjoy the war and I'm sure it is coming soon to the inner part of Kkartoum.