View Full Version : Why Does SPLM Threaten Over the Population Census Results?


amat allah
23-Jun-09, 13:28
SPLM aired an official warning directly to the National Electoral Commission (NEC) against considering the fifth population census results in its delimiting the geographic constituencies.

SPLM spokesman, Yein Mathew held a press conference where he stated in a sharp language that his movement considers the results as fake and that if the NEC stuck in taking into consideration the census results in delimiting the geographical constituencies, then the SPLM will move to Plan (b) or Plan (C), shouldering the NEC and the NCP the responsibility of the consequences.

However, it is the first time for the SPLM, since announcing the results of the 5th population census results, to take an official stance rejecting the population census results.

What is drawing the attention in Mathew's statement is that he did not reveal the nature of the counterfeit or the party behind it.

It goes without saying that the central Government in Khartoum is a National Unity government in which 12 political parties including the SPLM are participating and it is impossible for any party to make any counterfeit in the census results with the existence of all this political forces participating in power sharing.

amat allah
23-Jun-09, 13:30
Any counterfeit attempt could be easily discovered by any of these political forces within the GoNU and of course these forces will not leave the incident just go like that.

Then how come for the SPLM to be the only party which discovered the counterfeit? On the other hand the right channel to deal with any counterfeit is presenting a legal contest to the concerned justice authorities, to be dealt with legally.

Back to the SPLM official threats it seems that the movement has started well designed preliminary steps to spoil the upcoming general elections, because the SPLM fears it especially after the recent splinters that is the coming into being of SPLM-DC.

The SPLM, with its current weakness, could not ally with any other forces to enable it run the elections considering the referendum which will be run within less than two years.

Opinion
23-Jun-09, 18:39
Census head confirms count of southerners in north Sudan is incorrect
Sudan Tribune
Monday 25 May 2009.

May 24, 2009 (KHARTOUM) – The former director of the census commission, Awad Haj Ali, conceded in an interview that the reservations voiced by South Sudanese about the accuracy of the figures concerning the number of southern Sudanese in the north is true, adding that their number may be more than a million or a million and a half.

Some estimates of the population of southerners in the North have been as high as several million, due to the migration northward resulting from the civil war and economic factors.

The SPLM had accused the NCP of manipulating the figures of the census and under-counting the number of southerners in Khartoum. The number of southerners in north Sudan is at 520,000 people according to the census results, of which 350,000 are in Khartoum. Earlier, the South Sudan commission for census and population had expressed similar reservations at the figures.

However, speaking in the interview with Miraya FM, the census commission chairman blamed the inaccuracy on the refusal by southern Sudanese in the north to be counted. He did not fault the enumerators.

He pointed out that the total number of southerners in the north might be 26 percent.

On the same grounds, the Government of Southern Sudan has also rejected the census results that estimated the population of southern Sudan as twenty-one percent of Sudan’s population. First Vice-President and head of the semi-autonomous government in southern Sudan Salva Kiir Mayadrit approved the result at the Sudanese presidency meeting held on May 6, but later said he is unhappy with the results.

Sudan conducted its fifth Population and Housing Census, a milestone in the implementation of the 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA), from April 22 to May 6, 2008. It was the first all-inclusive census for people of southern Sudan since Sudan became independent in January 1956.
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Jakor
23-Jun-09, 22:32
SPLM has no point in this. Why did they accepted the census in the first place given how much they were informed about the unjust census procedures.

Dr. BullFrog
23-Jun-09, 23:41
SPLM spokesman, Yein Mathew held a press conference where he stated in a sharp language that his movement considers the results as fake and that if the NEC stuck in taking into consideration the census results in delimiting the geographical constituencies, then the SPLM will move to Plan (b) or Plan (C), shouldering the NEC and the NCP the responsibility of the consequences.




I knew long time ago, the two parties to CPA had their respective cards up their sleeves (side plans), just in case. It seems the two sides are just killing time before 2011 shows up, and the inevitable to happen - natural course of action. Take what belong to you and move on, on your own. Enough of these foxy oil-water mixing games!

The elections, the Abei, then census, etc, etc, these are just peripheral parameters. Any positive cooperation or interaction with respect to CPA, between the two has vanished long time ago. It is just a matter of of months before the natural course of events resume. All attempts to nurse unity in the country have been exhausted, leaving only one option to vent the accumulated steam. A decisive action on NCP regime is the only option.

:geek:

SGravanno
24-Jun-09, 00:17
I knew long time ago, the two parties to CPA had their respective cards up their sleeves (side plans), just in case. It seems the two sides are just killing time before 2011 shows up, and the inevitable to happen - natural course of action. Take what belong to you and move on, on your own. Enough of these foxy oil-water mixing games!

The elections, the Abei, then census, etc, etc, these are just peripheral parameters. Any positive cooperation or interaction with respect to CPA, between the two has vanished long time ago. It is just a matter of of months before the natural course of events resume. All attempts to nurse unity in the country have been exhausted, leaving only one option to vent the accumulated steam. A decisive action on NCP regime is the only option.

:geek:

I agree with you Dr. Bullfrog. Right from Naivash, one could not hesistate to conclude the agreement signed in '05 was not genuinely comprehensive. What the two parties basically agreed on in Naivasha is that they mistrust each other. That's the only agreement they have in common. Anything else is elusive other than the temproray cease fire between the two groups. Too sad, many put all their hopes on these false peace agreement without looking at the bigger picture!

Dr. BullFrog
24-Jun-09, 04:00
I agree with you Dr. Bullfrog. Right from Naivash, one could not hesistate to conclude the agreement signed in '05 was not genuinely comprehensive. What the two parties basically agreed on in Naivasha is that they mistrust each other. That's the only agreement they have in common. Anything else is elusive other than the temproray cease fire between the two groups. Too sad, many put all their hopes on these false peace agreement without looking at the bigger picture!

SGravanno;

There are plausible theories that say NCP was forced to sign the CPA,

because of the new Darfur Resistance that was popping up in the West at

the time. They figured, signing CPA, will buy them time to regroup and find

a way to deal with a new two-sided war with the South & Darfur.

So it is no wonder that they are dragging their feet with

CPA implementation. They are just freshening up for another resumption of

the marginalizationings. We all know that!

Darfur & NewSudan will deal with that foxiness no matter what, just waite

and we shall see. Qwiksand! :jump:

Peace! :geek:

Damade
24-Jun-09, 04:45
The recent sudan census results may cause disagreement between the former rivals, SPLM and NCP unless both sides put aside political idealogy differences and work hard on what will be best for the country. it sound simple but i see cenus results as pivotal point by which any player can tip the balance if he choses to pull back alittle. therefore, any slight wrong move by any party could jeopardize fragile comprehensive peace agreement.

why the SPLM threatens on census results is the question we should ask ourselves. first of all, i guess the reason that make SPLM party irretable is, they consider themselves victims of dishonesty of the former sudan politics. as some one well pressed it " too many agreements dishonored", its true that the SPLM as a party don't want another humiliation of being cheated on by the sudan government. Addis Ababa agreement is a shining example that explains clearly that all the things which both sides agreed upon were discorded by the sudan government shortly before the signiture ink dried on the pages of the book.

It is hard to belief NCP if they are not honest in counting people... They have killed alot of people and the census result is showing significant population growth in Darfur! My friends, dishonesty is a sign of the end, if not a sign of separation or otherwise could be war.......

Brand
24-Jun-09, 04:56
It goes without saying that the central Government in Khartoum is a National Unity government in which 12 political parties including the SPLM are participating and it is impossible for any party to make any counterfeit in the census results with the existence of all this political forces participating in power sharing.

:eek:
What is this? Some kind of a silly joke or something??
Can't you be audacious enough to say that the NCP is the party of God, and that its members are the people of Allah, and hence they can't do bad things or even think of doing anything bad at all!!

Karkar
24-Jun-09, 06:26
When we're decrying the CPA back in 2005, we were accused of being pessimists. It was not right from the beginning.

amat allah
24-Jun-09, 06:37
:eek:

What is this? Some kind of a silly joke or something??
Can't you be audacious enough to say that the NCP is the party of God, and that its members are the people of Allah, and hence they can't do bad things or even think of doing anything bad at all!!

hi every one
Brand,, I did not mean that ,, and I know any party has it bad side , ,
I am not with the NCP party all the time , I know they makes mistakes as the SPLM did , but I hope we all work for our people and country withuot any kind of Intolerance and racism ..
:geek:

amat allah
24-Jun-09, 06:39
When we're decrying the CPA back in 2005, we were accused of being pessimists. .


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

amat allah
24-Jun-09, 06:42
I am not hate any one in my country , but I really hope agood life for all in south or in nourth
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Karkar
24-Jun-09, 07:11
Come on! Amat allah, Let's us not decieve each other! you're one hell of an expert manipulator! You and I have completely differnt political views, I mean, we're not in one boat. So, think clapping for me, will do me what?:roll: I know very well that You're NIFer. So editting my statement wouldn't do you any good. Just how pathetic you think I'm, I know what you're after body!

amat allah
24-Jun-09, 07:26
Come on! Amat allah, Let's us not decieve each other! you're one hell of an expert manipulator! You and I have completely differnt political views, I mean, we're not in one boat. So, think clapping for me, will do me what?:roll: I know very well that You're NIFer. So editting my statement wouldn't do you any good. Just how pathetic you think I'm, I know what you're after body!

I know that but it doesn,t mean we are an
enemies ,, and when I clapping ,I just agree with you in tjat point
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs097.snc1/4722_1065912454035_1412743260_30165316_2116254_n.j pg

Karkar
24-Jun-09, 08:13
Agreed! only that I'm the wolf on the right side with its mouth wide open. You can trust me, wouldn't you?;)

amat allah
24-Jun-09, 08:22
Agreed! only that I'm the wolf on the right side with its mouth wide open. You can trust me, wouldn't you?;)


:lool::lool::lool::lool::lool:
:D

anajenubi
24-Jun-09, 11:32
I am not hate any one in my country , but I really hope agood life for all in south or in nourth
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs097.snc1/4722_1065912414034_1412743260_30165315_6252528_n.j pg

hope agood life for all in south or in nourth! What astupidity. since when did that come into your chicken brain?

amat allah
24-Jun-09, 11:34
hope agood life for all in south or in nourth! What astupidity. since when did that come into your chicken brain?

:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::cool::cool:

anajenubi
24-Jun-09, 11:43
:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::cool::cool:

Im Tired of your stupid threat lol, why don't you keep your ass busy with your ****en prayers in Mosque if you are not killing in Darfur instead of posting ****..............