Monday, May 10, 2004
http://www.kurdmedia.com/images/1x1.gifKurdishMedia.com - By Dr Kamal Mirawdeli
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Yes, I have written Fisk as Fisq. This is not a spelling mistake. I have done this deliberately as a simple and appropriate Arabisation of Mr Fisk’s surname. As a long-serving Arabist and advocate of Arab nationalism, he surely deserves this essential identification with Arab culture that he so passionately defends and admires.

Mr Fisk is an Arabist and must know enough Arabic to fully understand what Fisq means. He must also have enough Freudian self-knowledge to understand that this is a wonderfully proper name for him.

“Fisqâ€‌ is one of the main vocabularies of Islam. Its broad meaning is moral hypocrisy especially in sexual sense. It describes those who preach morality and integrity while being immersed in adultery and debauchery.



Robert Fisq, darfur and the destruction of morality!http://www.kurdmedia.com/images/1x1.gif
Monday, May 10, 2004
http://www.kurdmedia.com/images/1x1.gifKurdishMedia.com - By Dr Kamal Mirawdeli
http://www.kurdmedia.com/images/1x1.gifPart One

Yes, I have written Fisk as Fisq. This is not a spelling mistake. I have done this deliberately as a simple and appropriate Arabisation of Mr Fisk’s surname. As a long-serving Arabist and advocate of Arab nationalism, he surely deserves this essential identification with Arab culture that he so passionately defends and admires.

Mr Fisk is an Arabist and must know enough Arabic to fully understand what Fisq means. He must also have enough Freudian self-knowledge to understand that this is a wonderfully proper name for him.

“Fisqâ€‌ is one of the main vocabularies of Islam. Its broad meaning is moral hypocrisy especially in sexual sense. It describes those who preach morality and integrity while being immersed in adultery and debauchery.

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Death in Darfur, racism everywhere

On the first page of Independent on 8 May 2004, the whole front page is also devoted to the story of an Iraqi prisoner “alleging tortureâ€‌. The story is entitled, “ I was beaten for three days by British soldiers.â€‌ But that this story might be an allegation or this alleged tortured person might be a previous Ba’athist torturer, does not make the Independent hesitate to continue its daily campaign of exposing the cruelty and racism of the Americans in Iraq!

I do not criticise the Independent for prioritising, exposing and condemning the torture of any person even if they were ex-torturers themselves! But I want to stress the racism which practised daily by Robert Fisq, the Independent and Western media lies in what they omit and refuse to talk about because they consider some peoples and human beings less human and thus less worthy as items of news let alone subjects of campaign of human rights and anti-racism!

Fifteen years ago it was Kurdistan, anfal and genocide, which led to the massacre of 200,000 people and destruction of 4000 villages and towns.

Still Western media does not want to recognise happened. Although some photographs from Halabja did appear on TV screens.

Ten years ago it was Rwanda and the genocide of one million people. The French were directly involved in preparing for and facilitating this genocide. The British and the Americans turned blind eye by voting for the withdrawal of impotent UN forces.

Now there is Darfur whose genocide taking place ironically at a time when the world were supposedly commemorating the Rwanda genocide, the actors expressing guilt but then repeating the same inhuman, cruel, brutal lack of concern and humanity they displayed in the time of Rwanda genocide.

Robert Fisq will never mention Darfur. Whatever the West does there does not amount of racism because the Arabs there are not alleged victims bit real proven perpetrators pf crimes against humanity and genocide!

In the same Independent issue of 8 May 2004 on whose front page appears the alleged Iraqi victim of torture to whose story the whole front page and part of page 2 are devoted and page three and four are devoted to related Iraqi stories.

In the same issue you have to reach page 32 to find an item about Darfur. But it is not a news story investigated and produced by a Robert Fisk from Independent or its news team.

It seems the Independent reports the story reluctantly because it is produced by the very respectable Human Rights Watch. And some of the new facts about Darfur have come to light only because “ a [HRW] researcher who slipped into the war-torn province, provided asserting evidence of recent atrocities in the Masalit area of western Darfur.â€‌
So what do these verified reports say? Let us read the Independent. I have added the subheads:

Crimes against humanity

“ The fundamentalist regime in Khartoum was responsible for a pattern of “massive human rights violations… many of which may constitute crimes and/or crimes against humanityâ€‌.

Death, rape and one million refugees

“The investigators detailed collaboration between President Omar al-Bashir’s army and the Janjaweed- a fearsome horseback Arab militia that has torched villages, executed and raped civilians and forced a million people from their homes.â€‌

Photos, are there photos?

“Photos show torched villages, mass graves and the remnants of dead villagers lying untouched in the desert, while eyewitnesses accounts describe fierce raids by both government soldiers and the Janjaweed characterised by rape, murder and the destruction of wells and irrigation systems.

The report lists 77o civilians murdered and 14 villages burned down over the past five months. The mark of ethnic cleansing was unmistakeable, it said- in some cases Arab passtoralists had already moved into the deserted villages.

Whose morality is smashed by this Mr Fisq and the Independent?

It seems that what is happening in Darfur does not smash Mr Fisq’s morality. But definitely it exposes his deep-rooted racism and the deep-rooted racism and inhuman hypocrisy of Western culture.

Yes this is a tragedy happening. Yes these are crimes against humanity. Yes boys are raped and then murdered and girls are raped and kept as slaves according to Islamic sharia or eliminated. Yes whole villages and communities are ethnic-cleanse. And yes what has been revealed by Human Rights Watch is only a tip of iceberg because the Sudanese racist fundamentalist Arabist regime does not allow anyone to go and see. Even a US human rights envoy has been prevented. And United Nations? Surely, it must do something effective after the experience of Rwanda, which it commemorated with shame and guilt few days ago.

Yes of course. This great UN with its great Charter and Great Work for Humanity at last moved decisively to prevent the repetition of Rwanda in Darfur as it has been happening for years in South Sudan too.

What has Un done? It ahs nominated Sudan to the UN’s Human Rights Commission!

Yes, there are photos. Powerful photos. But who took and obtained these photos?

Why there no one single, odd Arab journalist, intellectual, soldier, ordinary person, who exposes these crimes through a photo, a report, a word, a voice instead of denying and supporting them?

What does this tell about Islam and Arab culture, Mr Fisq
You are an Arabist. You must know.

And what clash of civilisations is this, Mr Fisq?

The people of Darfur are not worth of attention of Western liberals, Leftists and hypocritical immoral Western media because they are Black Africans although they are Muslims!

They worship the same God and obey the same Quarn but this does not save them from genocide.

“The report notes that the Janiawed- who are Muslims like their victims- have destroyed mosques, killed Muslim religious leaders and desecrated Korans. Most victims come from the Fur, Maaslit and Zaghawa tribes, which are accused of supporting the Sudan Liberation army.â€‌

Then, Mr Fisq, what is the clash between civilisations there? Against which cruelty and racism Islam is intimately colliding?

Why does the photographs of rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, village torching, are not repeated day and night on Western TV screens and front pages of Newspapers until these atrocities stopped and perpetrators punished?

These atrocities do not happen because although there are photos they do not make news and insist on claiming the attention of people worldwide as the images of few Iraqi prisoners do.

As a Kurd who experienced anfal, Arab genocide campaigns against our people justified by the Quarn and Islam, I know what is happening at Darfur, It makes tremble when I read and imagine. It gives me nightmares. It reminds me of the cruelty, criminality and hypocrisy of Western Leftists, liberals and human rights activists let alone the criminal governments which create, facilitate and support these genocides through sale of arms, supporting murderers and keeping quiet about crimes against humanity.

This is the real Destruction of Morality, Mr Fisq.
This is the reality of your racism

Zozmois,

With all due respect to you and source – what is the point!?

Why is the Independent’s Editorial policy Fisk’s exclusive responsibility?

Did Robert Fisk have anything good to say about the Ingaz and/or its actions in Darfur?

Or are you and the source just angry about his balanced portrayals of issues in the Middle East (does not include Sudan)?

Or are you both arguing that there should be no reporting on abuses in Iraq?

Or has Darfur become a litmus-test of the day for all people and all things in the press?

I must say very bizarre approach!:confused:

Zozmois,

With all due respect to you and source – what is the point!?

Why is the Independent’s Editorial policy Fisk’s exclusive responsibility?

Did Robert Fisk have anything good to say about the Ingaz and/or its actions in Darfur?

Or are you and the source just angry about his balanced portrayals of issues in the Middle East (does not include Sudan)?

Or are you both arguing that there should be no reporting on abuses in Iraq?

Or has Darfur become a litmus-test of the day for all people and all things in the press?

I must say very bizarre approach!:confused:


"Or are you and the source just angry about his balanced portrayals of issues in the Middle East (does not include Sudan)?"
You call it 'balanced'. I suspect the author considers himself part of the middle east and if not included, then the equation is not really 'balanced'.
At least that's what it sounds like to me.




Why is the Independent’s Editorial policy Fisk’s exclusive responsibility?

Where does he make such a claim?

"The people of Darfur are not worth of attention of Western liberals, Leftists and hypocritical immoral Western media because they are Black Africans although they are Muslims! "

Sounds like he is including more than The Independent and Fisk to me.
Western media could even include 'Fox fizzle'.

"Or are you both arguing that there should be no reporting on abuses in Iraq"
When one esteemed SDB member joyfully posted that Rumsfield was going to Iraq to see the abuses going on there.
Zozimos's response at that time was Rumsfield was probably going to Iraq to get his fair share of the abusing.

Most of what i know about Fisk is what i hear from so-called 'progressive, independent' radio.
I do believe he makes contributions to The Progressive 'A leading voice for peace and social justice since 1909'.
Sounds to me the authors questions is directed to just such journals.

Zozimos,

So, if the source was really concerned with Western coverage in general – why pick on Fisk and insult him in this manner?

Robert Fisk is generally critical of Western Intervention in the Middle East – here is a sample in living color – consider it an introduction:

http://www.frontlineclub.com/video/robert-fisk.html (http://www.frontlineclub.com/video/robert-fisk.html)

Zozimos,

So, if the source was really concerned with Western coverage in general – why pick on Fisk and insult him in this manner?

Robert Fisk is generally critical of Western Intervention in the Middle East – here is a sample in living color – consider it an introduction:

http://www.frontlineclub.com/video/robert-fisk.html (http://www.frontlineclub.com/video/robert-fisk.html)



Yeah, there was a bit of what i'd consider a 'low blow' there.
I can't say why. I can only speculate, as i said before, he considers himself part of the equation in the middle east and believes Fisk ignores that.

Yeah, there was a bit of what i'd consider a 'low blow' there.
I can't say why. I can only speculate, as i said before, he considers himself part of the equation in the middle east and believes Fisk ignores that.


As you can probably tell from the SDB some of those who consider themselves directly concerned often exhibit the least amount of objectivity!

I suspect the Kurdish source is probably offended by Fisk’s lack of enthusiasm for the US/UK involvement in Iraq.

I suspect the Kurdish source is probably offended by Fisk’s lack of enthusiasm for the US/UK involvement in Iraq.

lol@lack of enthusiasm:lool:

Fisk's position is actually a whole lot more than lack of enthusiasm. The guy tell it like it is. Now if that is a lack of enthusiasm, I do not know how it would look like when someone does not lack it:lool:

"Either with us or against us." I think that sums it all. Guys like Fisk, Gallaway and a buch of few others are such pains in the back of the neocons. And it looks like zozimos subscribes to the neocons' creed!

lol@lack of enthusiasm:lool:

Fisk's position is actually a whole lot more than lack of enthusiasm. The guy tell it like it is. Now if that is a lack of enthusiasm, I do not know how it would look like when someone does not lack it:lool:

"Either with us or against us." I think that sums it all. Guys like Fisk, Gallaway and a buch of few others are such pains in the back of the neocons. And it looks like zozimos subscribes to the neocons' creed!


I just wanted to throw a low pass! :lool: 8)

The other stuff is “all good,â€‌ except for the fact that Zozmois in not a NeoCon – actually far from it! :wink:

This post actually reminds of the how many Iraqis with media access came on and bashed the UN for letting the people of Iraq down – this was prior to the invasion. They conveniently forgot that the UN is merely as good as the will of its members, particularly the will of those 5-permanent Security Council members.

Once regime collapsed", the US/UK both approached the same dastardly UN for a “Coveringâ€‌ resolution, which they got!

lol@lack of enthusiasm:lool:

Fisk's position is actually a whole lot more than lack of enthusiasm. The guy tell it like it is. Now if that is a lack of enthusiasm, I do not know how it would look like when someone does not lack it:lool:

"Either with us or against us." I think that sums it all. Guys like Fisk, Gallaway and a buch of few others are such pains in the back of the neocons. And it looks like zozimos subscribes to the neocons' creed!

"And it looks like zozimos subscribes to the neocons' creed!"

Zozimos subscribes to the neocons creed as much as he subscribes to Gharrabi's creed of the African who rather than
bending over and pretend he enjoys being a girl or having tree branches shoved up his rectum at the hands of your perveted , rabid, racist kin choses to escape to a zionist prison , in your words 'undignified'.

Fisk tell SOME OF IT like it is.

He never told this 'like it is':
"But the fact that 30,000 people are massacred in the most evil act of ethnic cleansing in Darfur, the fact that women and girls are collectively raped and slaughtered, the fact that little Black African boys and girls are taken as slaves by Arab Janjawid militia and 3 million people are displaced and are threatened with famine and death: these are facts that these great campaigners for peace and justice have not heard of. They do not want to hear them. For them, stateless colonised Black Africans in Western Sudan are sub-humans. Their Arab Islamic masters are entitled to do
whatever they wish with them. So no demonstrations, no petitions, no protests, no lobbying of parliament and public opinion for them."

Dr Kamal Mirawdeli 07/09/2004

My heart bleeds for Darfur
I feel the pulse, the pain, the predicament
It is Anfal
It is the same sword, the same system, the same story
The same verses
Sanctioning the slaughter of the weak
The collective rape of helpless women
The enslavement of little girls and boys
It is Darfur’s Anfal: it is the spoils of war against the infidel
It is ghaza against the enemies of Allah
It’s the celebration of murder
The glorification of theft
The spiritualisation of rape
It is Darfur’s Anfal
I know it
First came the planes
Throwing their napalms and chemical bombs
Then came the hordes of murderers
In tanks, armoured vehicles and military trucks
Shouting the names of Allah U Akbar and Uruba
Surrounding the villages from every corner
Uprooting every expression of life
Taking away everything valuable
Bringing out every human and living being
Indulging themselves in rape, murder and torture
Then burning and bulldozing the villages
Packing the people away in military trucks
To mass graves
It is happening now in Darfur
I see the tragedy in the tears of mothers
I feel the fear in the eyes of children
I recognise the ego, the arrogance, the excuses of the murderers
The hypocrisy of the arms traders
And the connivance of UN.
Darfur is not just a word
Darfur is not the worst human disaster in the world
Darfur is not a media occasion
Darfur is not a charity collection
It is intentional ethnic elimination
It is a political crime against a nation
Struggling for liberation
From colonial control and racist oppression.



TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.

lol@lack of enthusiasm:lool:

Fisk's position is actually a whole lot more than lack of enthusiasm. The guy tell it like it is. Now if that is a lack of enthusiasm, I do not know how it would look like when someone does not lack it:lool:

"Either with us or against us." I think that sums it all. Guys like Fisk, Gallaway and a buch of few others are such pains in the back of the neocons. And it looks like zozimos subscribes to the neocons' creed!


Gharrabi:
A thousand apologies for my tirade directed at you. Zozimos was confused.
That was a Ghazz???fi?? , not Gharrabi that made the 'undignified' statement.:oops

As you can probably tell from the SDB some of those who consider themselves directly concerned often exhibit the least amount of objectivity!

I suspect the Kurdish source is probably offended by Fisk’s lack of enthusiasm for the US/UK involvement in Iraq.

"I suspect the Kurdish source is probably offended by Fisk’s lack of enthusiasm for the US/UK involvement in Iraq."

But of course. Everyone knows it is not possible for a Kurd, Armenian or anyone else for that matter to feel any real outrage over the plight of Africans in Sudan. Any such fake expression of outrage must be either a zionist plot or anti arab
or/and anti Islam. I will say the fake outrage is still legions ahead of what arab so-called human rights groups have shown.
They cannot even fake a little outrage.

"I suspect the Kurdish source is probably offended by Fisk’s lack of enthusiasm for the US/UK involvement in Iraq."

But of course. Everyone knows it is not possible for a Kurd, Armenian or anyone else for that matter to feel any real outrage over the plight of Africans in Sudan. Any such fake expression of outrage must be either a zionist plot or anti arab
or/and anti Islam. I will say the fake outrage is still legions ahead of what arab so-called human rights groups have shown.
They cannot even fake a little outrage.

Zozimos,

I actually know different I know some Sudanese report/support on the struggles of the Kurds in Turkey and Iraq, I know there are other communities in Iran and millions who are called the silenced (Muktoom) in Syria where they have no rights.

All this is well and good – what is not is the exaggerated attack on Fisk!

I hope you get this point – beyond that you can make any other abstraction to comfort yourself in your own prejudices/beliefs!