View Full Version : TRINITY: WHAT IS IT?
How can we explain trinity?
Take water whose chemical formula is H2O...it has three physical states, namely,Solid, liquid and gas...i.e ice (snow), water, and vapour...but is still water in essence.
Similarly the Father, Son and holy spirit are the same person, and for this Jesus is the representation of G-d in man....for Jesus said
"I and the Father are one." john 10:30
Another explanation is for those mathematical minded ones:
Those who wonder that if G-d is one, then how can we explain that 1+1+1=1, when actually the answer is three?
To them I say, the equation is not expressed in such manner....it is expressed in the manner as below:
Infinite+Infinite+Infinite=Infinite.
for G-d is infinite in everything...as the Bible says:
How great are your works, O LORD,
how profound your thoughts! Psalm 92:5
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JustSudanese,
The torah, reflected the relation of YHWH with the people of Israel. There were no others. the purpose was to eventually include others, through the totality of the revelation...via the MESSIAH, Jesus the Christ. this truth is revelaed to all believers via the SPIRIT of YHWH communing with the spirit of man.
YHWH is the name of G-d from the torah...it is composed of three letters. (the W is a connector, similar to the waw in arabic, infact it is called vav (or waw), in Hebrew).
the three letters then are YHH. Y or 'yod' in Hebrew is the tenth letter, mening the ten commands or the WORD or the LAW...the two H's are the Supreme G-d and His messiah. They are inseparable. they are all in one known as YHWH.
Trinity! one for all and all for one?:D
Does preaching the Word of GOd in the new Testement should include of what the old testement covered,as in the historical events of the old Isreal is not quite the same in the eyes of a lot of other Christians now days? when now, our world's religions are basically poletics where the enlightenments has reached to Christ has a sone.
I think you should iether stick to just preachig the Good book in it's plain english and quit confusing ppl of all background with your interpretations of the old languages.
Trinity! one for all and all for one?:D
Does preaching the Word of GOd in the new Testement should include of what the old testement covered,as in the historical events of the old Isreal is not quite the same in the eyes of a lot of other Christians now days? when now, our world's religions are basically poletics where the enlightenments has reached to Christ has a sone.
I think you should iether stick to just preachig the Good book in it's plain english and quit confusing ppl of all background with your interpretations of the old languages.
Misteer,
Our world's religions, if they reached politics, thats what the end of politics is.
As I have made a post before...Jesus did not come to institute a religion...and there is no enlightenment about Jesus having a son...it is a money making business after the davinci code has got its share of money but was hugely suspect, and defenseless in the court. These new controversies are also unable to defend themselves, but resigned by saying that, " This is only to create debate"....and of course money.
The Old testament and the New testament are both G-d's words...they support eachother and are consistent.
Misteer,
Our world's religions, if they reached politics, thats what the end of politics is.
As I have made a post before...Jesus did not come to institute a religion...and there is no enlightenment about Jesus having a son...it is a money making business after the davinci code has got its share of money but was hugely suspect, and defenseless in the court. These new controversies are also unable to defend themselves, but resigned by saying that, " This is only to create debate"....and of course money.
The Old testament and the New testament are both G-d's words...they support eachother and are consistent.
yes they have reached poletics and the dirtiest part of it
I know Christ did not come to inistitute religions but what has been done after him is still what is going around is nothing but religoin and lot mix of poletics. Sure it is money making dicoveries but don't you think all of that is actually sending a mix messages?
Yes they are both consistance but doesnt it also send a message when we all have different interpretations? and why do you have to actually include the Torah to support your own interpretations of both i mean it is a fact that a Torah holds a totally different teachings of its own with regards only to all sharing One God?
quite confusing the christians and none christians of this board if your aim is to just preach the word of God and Jesus Christ. Just use plain english if your message to cross. We are talking about ppl of now days,cause i am absolutly not going to take you serious if you have to include Torah to the Bible.
Misteer,
I don't know what you exactly mean when you say I should not include the Torah in the Bible.
The Bible consists of the Old and New testaments.
The Old testament is composed of several section of which the Torah is amongst...others in the Old testament are the prophets and the writtings. The torah IS within the Bible or "tanach" meaning the Old testament.
...and why do you want to remove the torah (it means LAW), when Jesus clearly stated:
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-20
I dont ask you to take me seriously, but are you gonna take the words from the Bible seriously?
Buffalo_Soldier 04-Mar-07, 12:34 How can we explain trinity?
Take water whose chemical formula is H2O...it has three physical states, namely,Solid, liquid and gas...i.e ice (snow), water, and vapour...but is still water in essence.
Similarly the Father, Son and holy spirit are the same person, and for this Jesus is the representation of G-d in man....for Jesus said
"I and the Father are one." john 10:30
Another explanation is for those mathematical minded ones:
Those who wonder that if G-d is one, then how can we explain that 1+1+1=1, when actually the answer is three?
To them I say, the equation is not expressed in such manner....it is expressed in the manner as below:
Infinite+Infinite+Infinite=Infinite.
for G-d is infinite in everything...as the Bible says:
How great are your works, O LORD,
how profound your thoughts! Psalm 92:5
Another explanation is for those mathematical minded ones:
Those who wonder that if G-d is one, then how can we explain that 1+1+1=1, when actually the answer is three?
To them I say, the equation is not expressed in such manner....it is expressed in the manner as below:
Infinite+Infinite+Infinite=Infinite.
for G-d is infinite in everything...as the Bible says:
FIRST OF ALL: PROVE THAT THE "TRINITY" IS MENTIONED INSIDE YOUR HOLY BOOK? THEN TRY TO EXPLAIN!
FIRST OF ALL: PROVE THAT THE "TRINITY" IS MENTIONED INSIDE YOUR HOLY BOOK? THEN TRY TO EXPLAIN!
:)
1
Matt. 28:18 (http://www.carm.org/kjv/Matt/matt_28.htm#And), Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
2
1 Cor. 12:4-6 (http://www.carm.org/kjv/1Cor/1cor_12.htm#1), Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6And there are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.
3
2 Cor. 13:14 (http://www.carm.org/kjv/2Cor/2cor_13.htm#14), The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
4
Eph. 4:4-7 (http://www.carm.org/kjv/Eph/eph_4.htm#4), There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
5
1 Pet. 1:2 (http://www.carm.org/kjv/1Pet/1Pet_1.htm#1), "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in fullest measure."
6
Jude 20-21 (http://www.carm.org/kjv/Jude/Jude_1.htm#20), "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith; praying in the Holy Spirit; 21keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life."
Another explanation is for those mathematical minded ones:
Those who wonder that if G-d is one, then how can we explain that 1+1+1=1, when actually the answer is three?
To them I say, the equation is not expressed in such manner....it is expressed in the manner as below:
Infinite+Infinite+Infinite=Infinite.
for G-d is infinite in everything...as the Bible says:
FIRST OF ALL: PROVE THAT THE "TRINITY" IS MENTIONED INSIDE YOUR HOLY BOOK? THEN TRY TO EXPLAIN!
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What is the Trinity?
The word "trinity" is a term used to denote the Christian doctrine that God exists as a unity of three distinct persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of the persons is distinct from the other, yet identical in essence. In other words, each is fully divine in nature, but each is not the totality of the Trinity. Each has a will, loves, and says "I", and "You" when speaking. The Father is not the same person as the Son who is not the same person as the Holy Spirit who is not the same person as the Father. Each is divine, yet there are not three gods, but one God.There are three individual subsistences, or persons. The word "subsistence" means something that has a real existence. The word "person" denotes individuality and self awareness. The Trinity is three of these, though the latter term has become the dominant one used to describe the individual aspects of God known as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Included in the doctrine of the Trinity is a strict monotheism which is the teaching that there exists in all the universe a single being known as God who is self-existent and unchangeable (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8). Therefore, it is important to note that the doctrine of the trinity is not polytheistic as some of its critics proclaim. Trinitarianism is monotheistic by definition and those who claim it is polytheistic demonstrate a lack of understanding of what it really is.
The Trinity
God is three persons
Each person is divine
There is only one God.
Many theologians admit that the term "person" is not a perfect word to describe the three individual aspects/foci found in God. When we normally use the word person, we understand it to mean physical individuals who exist as separate beings from other individuals. But in God there are not three entities, nor three beings. God, is a trinity of persons consisting of one substance and one essence. God is numerically one. Yet, within the single divine essence are three individual subsistences that we call persons.
Each of the three persons is completely divine in nature though each is not the totality of the Godhead.
Each of the three persons is not the other two persons.
Each of the three persons is related to the other two, but are distinct from them.The word "trinity" is not found in the Bible. But this does not mean that the concept is not taught there. The word "bible" is not found in the Bible either, but we use it anyway. Likewise, the words "omniscience," which means "all knowing," "omnipotence," which means "all powerful," and "omnipresence," which means "present everywhere," are not found in the Bible either. But we use these words to describe the attributes of God. So, to say that the Trinity isn't true because the word isn't in the Bible is an invalid argument.
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personnally i know what trinity mean to all chrisitans, but my Q is this if the conncepts of trinities is all there is in the bible but not the word trinitywith what the conceptual entity holds how did we end up with the word trinity then,i mean how did we come to conclusions that it means the father the son and the holy spirit? It could have meant somthing else,no?
As i 've mentioned i know what trinity mean to christians,but why does it hold a significant entity to catholics? and isn't why the reason that catholics remain just catholics a Cult to most christian sects?
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