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nubianking 17-Feb-07, 19:47 I just wanted to ask:
If the SPLM win the elections in two years' time (or however long it is), would you still vote for secession?
(obviously this question is aimed at the southerners).
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
I just wanted to ask:
If the SPLM win the elections in two years' time (or however long it is), would you still vote for secession?
(obviously this question is aimed at the southerners).
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
I and my people still going to vote for secession, to trust black arabs of Sudan will be the last thing we will do.
I and my people still going to vote for secession, to trust black arabs of Sudan will be the last thing we will do.
That's very true Tambura,
I would rather live in a country without a president, if anymore we are going to talk, share or do the same stuff with the arabs. It is about time.......and let's see what happens...
I just wanted to ask:
If the SPLM win the elections in two years' time (or however long it is), would you still vote for secession?
(obviously this question is aimed at the southerners).
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
this is a good question Nubianking, I don't think it would be hard for splm to win the upcoming election, but the truth is, nif regime dosn't stop sneaking its tail because it is hopping for the splm to preach unity instead of separation; however, since most of the southerners are jiffy for separation they still will vote for secession no matter what happen.
JIJURY
well it depends on how the splm will run the country. if they turn sudan into a confederation, with the south collecting all the revenues from its resources, then i am sure some ppl will vote for unity. also i think sum ppl would vote for unity just to make northerns feel how to not be in controll.
nubianking 18-Feb-07, 01:25 Hmmm... these weren't the answers i was looking for, but it looks like it is the sad truth!
sudan has such bad luck... being constantly ruled by bad people, while all the good people die! (end up in plane crashes etc.)
I wonder what it would have been like if things simply started on the right foot!
RAM~MI~RAN 18-Feb-07, 02:33 well it depends on how the splm will run the country. if they turn sudan into a confederation, with the south collecting all the revenues from its resources, then i am sure some ppl will vote for unity. also i think sum ppl would vote for unity just to make northerns feel how to not be in controll.
No and no, sorry dudel;; but i think u get it way wrong////////no matter how many southerners get voted to power or office in khartoum. forget it....south sudan must and will be by all mean become indepedent state or nation in that matter.... of which is to be called The Republic of South Sudan (RSS) you can take the north and we don't give shirt/.......................
mushakisمشاكس 18-Feb-07, 04:00 I just wanted to ask:
If the SPLM win the elections in two years' time (or however long it is), would you still vote for secession?
(obviously this question is aimed at the southerners).
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
man don't listen to this garbage i can assure you that sudan will remain united those who writes here are not representing souther sudanese this are sotherners imigrants only and let me tell you other things that the spla is not representing southsudanese there is many other factions including factions in close ties with (NCP) NIF
i am not expecting that spla wins the election but i think there will be coalition with uma dup aluma wa aletihadi with spla to defeat the ncp and a new coalition gov will be formed this coalition will be built on unity basis
sudan will remain one that is good for all south and north for the sake of the coming generation let us pray that the coming generation will not have the same ignorance and traibalism like us.
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
It's hard to imagine cause that can only happen in La La land.....and if you blv in La La land...then you might as well believe that Obama will be the next president of the United States.....keep the imaginations alive. It's really hard for me to imagine any Northern Sudanese voting for SPLA except maybe for communists.....so how many votes are those? See how hard it is to imagine unrealistic events?
Northerners and Southerners had enough of each other...let separation bring life to this miserable union by having two seperate states.
nubianking 18-Feb-07, 13:20 It's hard to imagine cause that can only happen in La La land.....and if you blv in La La land...then you might as well believe that Obama will be the next president of the United States.....keep the imaginations alive. It's really hard for me to imagine any Northern Sudanese voting for SPLA except maybe for communists.....so how many votes are those? See how hard it is to imagine unrealistic events?
Northerners and Southerners had enough of each other...let separation bring life to this miserable union by having two seperate states.
You would be surprised as to the number of northerners who support the SPLM!!
remember that there is marginalisation in the north as well, and we also are sick and tired of the traditioinal governements who have ruled us unsuccessfully in the past. and also remember that the splm has fought for all sudanese rights, not just the south, and i do feel indebted! Dr Garang did not take the easy option of fighting for the independence of the south, but he saw the suffering that is also happening in the north, and he can see the potential of a peaceful, united Sudan. this is something i would definitely vote for if not fight for.
It's hard to imagine cause that can only happen in La La land.....and if you blv in La La land...then you might as well believe that Obama will be the next president of the United States.....keep the imaginations alive. It's really hard for me to imagine any Northern Sudanese voting for SPLA except maybe for communists.....so how many votes are those? See how hard it is to imagine unrealistic events?
Northerners and Southerners had enough of each other...let separation bring life to this miserable union by having two seperate states.
Although Iآ´m not a southern and my family is from a very famous family from the north of Sudan "Shebika" I hope so so much that a southern will take over the presidency. The country needs fresh blood in all fields.
Everything must be put up-side-down. you can be sure that the SPLM has a huge support under the northerner. Arman is not just doing a good job but he is a very sympathic person.
The NIF or the NCP has very weak support and they will fail across-the-board. Turabi is doing a good mime to the bad game he played and I hope heآ´ll not even think about candidacy. If separation takes place then everyone should have appreciation of the situation and the circumstances which have led to that point.
nubianking
1-We are sick and tired of all the unsuccessful governments---> very true
2-does that mean splam (or whatever the abbreviation is) is the answer? HELL NO
3-The splm has fought for all Sudanese rights ---> now that's a joke
spla are power mongers just like the unsuccessful Sudanese governments and their goals were never the interest of all Sudanese....you can't convince me here....and I blv John Garang was smart enough to adopt some unifying slogans for his movement but his ultimate goal was to get the Southern movement in power for his self satisfaction and to achieve his own Southern agenda and don't forget that the spla propaganda campaigns in the West were focused in portraying the war between the South and North as a war between Arab and Africans, Muslims and Christians....so how do you expect the majority of Northern Sudanese who claim the Muslim Arabian identity to accept this racist movement as their government? you gotta be kidding me
I think it's funny and almost ridiculous and insulting to talk about the Southern racist movement fighting for the rights of all Sudanese....even Silva Kair would laugh at this....reality is..they were/are fighting for their own Southern interest and agenda...another reality is that some Northerners found out that spla is a strong movement and it's their only hope to include their own vision for the new Sudan so they are trying to manipulate the movement goals to do so and maybe that's why Silva Kair appears to be a unionist nowadays...he wears whatever outfit to get to his goals.....
I hate to say this, but if you wanna imagine any winners in any Sudanese elections...imagine Umma and Ithady....which means Elsadig Elmahadi (also known as Haloma Jarra). Although I dislike the guy, but I would prefer him a million time over racist spla.
People in Khartoum are talking about buying weapons to defend themselves against barbaric Southern attacks similar to the the ones happened after Garang died and you are talking about the same people voting for SPLA? See how funny that is?
Scorpius,
Let us be clear, we don't like each other. why are we still united? it is because of your greedy, I know you will be the first to vote for SPLA/M in order to keep alive the dying unity. I am telling you that whatever will happen in the "electins" will NOT change the mind of 99% of South Sudanese to vote for separation. We are tired with your islamic GENOCIDE. If your islamic jihad will be thirsty with BLOOD, you will have to look for others venues to feed your islamic Genocider when you finish in Darfur.
Why should we go to election, Just tell your people to pull out from the South and the game will be over.
RAM~MI~RAN 18-Feb-07, 18:24 nubianking
1-We are sick and tired of all the unsuccessful governments---> very true
2-does that mean splam (or whatever the abbreviation is) is the answer? HELL NO
3-The splm has fought for all Sudanese rights ---> now that's a joke
spla are power mongers just like the unsuccessful Sudanese governments and their goals were never the interest of all Sudanese....you can't convince me here....and I blv John Garang was smart enough to adopt some unifying slogans for his movement but his ultimate goal was to get the Southern movement in power for his self satisfaction and to achieve his own Southern agenda and don't forget that the spla propaganda campaigns in the West were focused in portraying the war between the South and North as a war between Arab and Africans, Muslims and Christians....so how do you expect the majority of Northern Sudanese who claim the Muslim Arabian identity to accept this racist movement as their government? you gotta be kidding me
I think it's funny and almost ridiculous and insulting to talk about the Southern racist movement fighting for the rights of all Sudanese....even Silva Kair would laugh at this....reality is..they were/are fighting for their own Southern interest and agenda...another reality is that some Northerners found out that spla is a strong movement and it's their only hope to include their own vision for the new Sudan so they are trying to manipulate the movement goals to do so and maybe that's why Silva Kair appears to be a unionist nowadays...he wears whatever outfit to get to his goals.....
I hate to say this, but if you wanna imagine any winners in any Sudanese elections...imagine Umma and Ithady....which means Elsadig Elmahadi (also known as Haloma Jarra). Although I dislike the guy, but I would prefer him a million time over racist spla.
People in Khartoum are talking about buying weapons to defend themselves against barbaric Southern attacks similar to the the ones happened after Garang died and you are talking about the same people voting for SPLA? See how funny that is?
Well, you get one thing right...be prepare and really affraid...i'm sure you have seen the SPLA tanks and troops in khartoum now a day....don't be stupid to start none or khartoum will be demolished to the ground...revange hard when it happen......just remeber how places and lives your islamist arab wonnabe government have done in the south....I personally don't even like to see SPLM to participate in this so called 2008 election cuz that's not what's important....what's important is making sure that your jahdiest troops are out of the south and let just waite for 2011 so that we can called it a goodbe and we don't have to worry anymore about your stupids islamist and arabism agendas.......
U.N. & U.S. Enemy 18-Feb-07, 18:35 SPLA and the division of sudan alone become controversial to its best of intentions of who would do the talk on behave of those who doesn't want sudan to be divided, as far as i see it, northerners(arabs) and southerner, initially equatorians are more concern to be rule by the naked(jengea) who have coursed massacre or genocide you name it, you know what i'm saying. And yet with government of southern sudan in their hand, something wrong had fall a part, of being so keen with the americans whose their interest is to divid and rule. I just wanted to ask:
If the SPLM win the elections in two years' time (or however long it is), would you still vote for secession?
(obviously this question is aimed at the southerners).
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
John Garang was smart enough to adopt some unifying slogans for his movement but his ultimate goal was to get the Southern movement in power for his self satisfaction and to achieve his own Southern agenda
Can you prove what you are writting here?? These are typical propaganda verdicts and tall stories we are hearing from the Nif for decades.
and don't forget that the spla propaganda campaigns in the West were focused in portraying the war between the South and North as a war between Arab and Africans, Muslims and Christians....
wasnآ´t it so that bashir, taha, turabi and co.. called for jihad and fought against southern sudanese?? ......wasnآ´t it bashir, taha, turabi and co. who received financial and ideological support from Iran and Saudi??? Maybe I missunderstood everything but it seems that armed, radicalised muslims went to the south chanting Allahu akbar killing millions of people. As far as I know Jihad is subject reserved to moslems. So it was indeed a war between moslems and non moslems.
so how do you expect the majority of Northern Sudanese who claim the Muslim Arabian identity to accept this racist movement as their government? you gotta be kidding me.
Did any one say the majority of the north will accept the SPLM?
I cannآ´t aknowlage SPLM as a racist movement. For sure there are racist elements in the SPLM as we can find racist elements in the SDB and everywhere daily but to say SPLM is a racist movement is defame.
reality is..they were/are fighting for their own Southern interest and agenda
Why not! they have the right and if they only fight for torit or Yei its up to them. Fact is that when I came to Khartoum Dezember 2005/2006 I could find hundreds of (courting) couple sitting near to the Nile, that is just to show you what SPLM fought for. When I was 2000 in Omdurman I was going with my cousin through the market I was stopped by some people wearing civil and asked who the lady was and that is what the NIF is Fighting for. DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
People in Khartoum are talking about buying weapons to defend themselves against barbaric Southern attacks similar to the the ones happened after Garang died......?
I donآ´t trust this Regime either. Iآ´m not a southern but sympatize very much with them as a society. With all due respect the minimum amends which can be made to to allay pain is to vote for a non muslim southern sudanese President.
Greetings
Shebika
U.N. & U.S. Enemy 18-Feb-07, 18:57 As i have mention above in the subject, when we talk about southerners, one thing went missing, southern sudan in general can't be represent by naked jengea(dinka) people only, with that alone, we equatorians weren't been mention, now, referendum clock is ticking, heading to the year 2011 of which will be its due date, who will vote for the dinka southern sudan rule? i don't think the equatorians are foolish enough to put them selves in to these tedy bear affair nor do the northerners(arabs) in this sense, sudan would still have a chance to remain what is to day. retrman don't listen to this garbage i can assure you that sudan will remain united those who writes here are not representing souther sudanese this are sotherners imigrants only and let me tell you other things that the spla is not representing southsudanese there is many other factions including factions in close ties with (NCP) NIF
i am not expecting that spla wins the election but i think there will be coalition with uma dup aluma wa aletihadi with spla to defeat the ncp and a new coalition gov will be formed this coalition will be built on unity basis
sudan will remain one that is good for all south and north for the sake of the coming generation let us pray that the coming generation will not have the same ignorance and traibalism like us.
RAM~MI~RAN 18-Feb-07, 19:17 As i have mention above in the subject, when we talk about southerners, one thing went missing, southern sudan in general can't be represent by naked jengea(dinka) people only, with that alone, we equatorians weren't been mention, now, referendum clock is ticking, heading to the year 2011 of which will be its due date, who will vote for the dinka southern sudan rule? i don't think the equatorians are foolish enough to put them selves in to these tedy bear affair nor do the northerners(arabs) in this sense, sudan would still have a chance to remain what is to day. retr
Hmmmmmmm busted, i think you have just committed your own sucide..check out your name first and than come back to the paragh of your post....you claim that you are equatorian which ironic because the equatorian are not against U.N or U.S as their enemy...good try but you just hange yourself with your own wards....see you next time arab wonnnabe...
U.N. & U.S. Enemy 18-Feb-07, 19:39 Despite of what is being said, whether by john garang, or by salva kirr, are all doom, sudan has just rise and it will never be brought down, no matter what.I just wanted to ask:
If the SPLM win the elections in two years' time (or however long it is), would you still vote for secession?
(obviously this question is aimed at the southerners).
please don't reply that the splm will never win, or that the ncp will never give up power etc etc. just IMAGINE!! that the SPLM win properly.
RAM~MI~RAN 18-Feb-07, 20:12 Despite of what is being said, whether by john garang, or by salva kirr, are all doom, sudan has just rise and it will never be brought down, no matter what.
Well, you should have just out straight up like before instead of pretending with nonses that you were equatorian when you really stand out..don't jump into a river before you scaned it for corcodales...i believe this your user name "U.N & U.S Enemy" This tell everyone that your a radical northerner...cuz no one in the south is emeny to none of them...the only enemy we know is you...so you can't pretend to be equatorian dumie..
Ana-omdurman 19-Feb-07, 01:57 Did any one say the majority of the north will accept the SPLM?
I cannآ´t aknowlage SPLM as a racist movement. For sure there are racist elements in the SPLM as we can find racist elements in the SDB and everywhere daily but to say SPLM is a racist movement is defame.
If Northerners accept SPLM they are signing their death penalties by themselves.
SPLM is not only a racist movement but a one tribe movement lead by one tribe just like the NIF in the north and northerners in general in Sudan. Any one who is doubt of this must be living in another world. All the top positions in the SPLM cabinet and the intelligence network and security apparutus of the its army is under the command of one tribe. It is true that you will find from officers & ministers from other tribes in the GOSS but they are merely symbolic with out any actual power or say. Just like the NIF restrictive powers in the government of national unity. It is true there were and are still many ministers & officers from many poltical parties i.e. NDA ,SSDF, SPLM, UMMA. And there also southerners there, but they are all just symbolic and the main power which is in the armed forces, the airforce, the intelligence network and the policy making is under NIF including the treasury.
Now the SPLM is known to be a very anti-northern movement. It slogans since it was formed in 1983 was to ethnically cleanse northerners not only from the south but from Nimule to Halfa. The fanatic slogan still remains there till today and you will see some the SPLM lost boys or its old SPLM supporters in the SDB like Tamboura, deekui & Jakor repeating it all the time. However SPLM will change & reform it's one tribal policy to a Southern (black) nationalist movement, if it remains in a one Sudan as it will be representing as (it claims), the marginalised people of all corners of Sudan and particulary southerners of all tribes in. And it will need the majority of all the southern tribes if not alll them to help it compete and combat northern influence & domination all around the sudan.As the Dinka by themselves cannot do that. The SPLM's command & powers which is under one tribe will be shared between all the southern tribes and it will turn to a Nationalist Southern movement under the vision of Sudan to be ruled by the Southern black african only and the extermination of the northerner & then the others by the one way or another.
However if the south seperates then it will remian under the one tribe power. As there will be no need & not many governmental positions available for other southern tribes and no real need to combat or compete with any northern or muslim influence in the government of south as there are no northerners in the south.Their conflict with the North ends there and ends forever.:flag:
Now the SPLM is known to be a very anti-northern movement. It slogans since it was formed in 1983 was to ethnically cleanse northerners not only from the south but from Nimule to Halfa.
what i wonder how did 2 million southern die. i wonder how did 400 thousand darfurian died. the only murderers are the northern goverments. you don't do nothing when ppl die in the south and darfur and the nuba mts, but now you suddenly have feelings when you think your ppl are the one in danger.
anyways i don't think that was john garang's plan to ethnically cleanse the northerns, and if they really are trying to do the samething to the north that was done in the south then they are asking for revenge. remember you can't kill someone's sun and not xpect him to come after you.
Ana-omdurman 19-Feb-07, 03:05 what i wonder how did 2 million southern die. i wonder how did 400 thousand darfurian died.
:flag: Make some good research and you will find out how they really died :flag: .
:flag: Make some good research and you will find out how they really died :flag: .
i don't need research. some of my family was their, and some didn't come out alive.
Ana-omdurman 19-Feb-07, 04:04 i don't need research. some of my family was their, and some didn't come out alive.
:flag: It is sad, my condolences to you and your family. I wish I could offer you some help , but sorry i dont have anything in my disposal to help you or your family.
:flag: It is sad, my condolences to you and your family. I wish I could offer you some help , but sorry i dont have anything in my disposal to help you or your family.
they are not my relatives of first degree, they are mostly my relatives from my dady side, who lived in the nuba mts. i hardly know any of them but my daddy do.
RAM~MI~RAN 19-Feb-07, 05:35 they are not my relatives of first degree, they are mostly my relatives from my dady side, who lived in the nuba mts. i hardly know any of them but my daddy do.
Yeah and i believe you grew up in the north...no wonder you are confused....
Yeah and i believe you grew up in the north...no wonder you are confused....
what do u mean i am confused.
nigga i know where i come from and i know where i am at. i don't need u 2 show me the way.
:flag: It is sad, my condolences to you and your family. I wish I could offer you some help , but sorry i dont have anything in my disposal to help you or your family.
What an ignorances! the trust is that you like it when southerners and Darfurian are dying. A typical arabwannabes of sudnan love to put others in danger, but the spla/m has a solution for that. Believe it or not mr. Oano.... Splam is going to bring people's lives back in a golden plate and nothing gonna stop them from doing that. The claim which you made that SPLA/M is owned by one tribe is the most radiculus claim ever. marganalized people of sudan who support the SPLA/M have understood that the only way for them to live in a just community is to support the spla/m. so, tried it in other way bro becuase NIF party days are numbered.
nubianking 19-Feb-07, 19:48 nubianking
1-We are sick and tired of all the unsuccessful governments---> very true
2-does that mean splam (or whatever the abbreviation is) is the answer? HELL NO
3-The splm has fought for all Sudanese rights ---> now that's a joke
spla are power mongers just like the unsuccessful Sudanese governments and their goals were never the interest of all Sudanese....you can't convince me here....and I blv John Garang was smart enough to adopt some unifying slogans for his movement but his ultimate goal was to get the Southern movement in power for his self satisfaction and to achieve his own Southern agenda and don't forget that the spla propaganda campaigns in the West were focused in portraying the war between the South and North as a war between Arab and Africans, Muslims and Christians....so how do you expect the majority of Northern Sudanese who claim the Muslim Arabian identity to accept this racist movement as their government? you gotta be kidding me
I think it's funny and almost ridiculous and insulting to talk about the Southern racist movement fighting for the rights of all Sudanese....even Silva Kair would laugh at this....reality is..they were/are fighting for their own Southern interest and agenda...another reality is that some Northerners found out that spla is a strong movement and it's their only hope to include their own vision for the new Sudan so they are trying to manipulate the movement goals to do so and maybe that's why Silva Kair appears to be a unionist nowadays...he wears whatever outfit to get to his goals.....
I hate to say this, but if you wanna imagine any winners in any Sudanese elections...imagine Umma and Ithady....which means Elsadig Elmahadi (also known as Haloma Jarra). Although I dislike the guy, but I would prefer him a million time over racist spla.
People in Khartoum are talking about buying weapons to defend themselves against barbaric Southern attacks similar to the the ones happened after Garang died and you are talking about the same people voting for SPLA? See how funny that is?
Whoa whoa whoa!!!
First of all, if garang's sole agenda was power, he could have settled for an independent south ages ago and he could have ruled over it his own way.
Secondly, you're saying garang was power-hungry, and you think the other northerners in the government aren't?? we've had three coups after independence for God's sake, and the current governement we have is an illegal government. so either way, everyone's power-hungry anyway so your point doesn't make sense.
Thirdly, I don't think the SPLM is a racist movement at all, nor do i see and evidence of that.
and lastly, the SPLM did not cause the things that happened on the day of Garang's death. you can't judge a whole population due to some things that some people did! and that is a whole other story which i dont want to go on about here because it isn't the topic of discussion.
I think you need to open your mind a bit more and stop being racist yourself.
nubianking 19-Feb-07, 19:54 Can you prove what you are writting here?? These are typical propaganda verdicts and tall stories we are hearing from the Nif for decades.
wasnآ´t it so that bashir, taha, turabi and co.. called for jihad and fought against southern sudanese?? ......wasnآ´t it bashir, taha, turabi and co. who received financial and ideological support from Iran and Saudi??? Maybe I missunderstood everything but it seems that armed, radicalised muslims went to the south chanting Allahu akbar killing millions of people. As far as I know Jihad is subject reserved to moslems. So it was indeed a war between moslems and non moslems.
Did any one say the majority of the north will accept the SPLM?
I cannآ´t aknowlage SPLM as a racist movement. For sure there are racist elements in the SPLM as we can find racist elements in the SDB and everywhere daily but to say SPLM is a racist movement is defame.
Why not! they have the right and if they only fight for torit or Yei its up to them. Fact is that when I came to Khartoum Dezember 2005/2006 I could find hundreds of (courting) couple sitting near to the Nile, that is just to show you what SPLM fought for. When I was 2000 in Omdurman I was going with my cousin through the market I was stopped by some people wearing civil and asked who the lady was and that is what the NIF is Fighting for. DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
I donآ´t trust this Regime either. Iآ´m not a southern but sympatize very much with them as a society. With all due respect the minimum amends which can be made to to allay pain is to vote for a non muslim southern sudanese President.
Greetings
Shebika
some wise words there! especially the example about people courting. i think its time to return to the simple things! all this stuff about sharia and north/south and arabic/african and jihad etc is irrelevant until we have our basic rights of freedom and security etc.
nubianking 19-Feb-07, 19:58 As i have mention above in the subject, when we talk about southerners, one thing went missing, southern sudan in general can't be represent by naked jengea(dinka) people only, with that alone, we equatorians weren't been mention, now, referendum clock is ticking, heading to the year 2011 of which will be its due date, who will vote for the dinka southern sudan rule? i don't think the equatorians are foolish enough to put them selves in to these tedy bear affair nor do the northerners(arabs) in this sense, sudan would still have a chance to remain what is to day. retr
so are you saying you (and other equatorians) will vote splm or not? so you'd prefer a united sudan run by a mixture, rather than risk a south sudan run by Dinka? it is interesting to hear that. but watch the splm - if it is changing to involve more northerners, surely it will be looking for non-dinka southerners as well.
Ana-omdurman 20-Feb-07, 00:04 What an ignorances! the trust is that you like it when southerners and Darfurian are dying. .
Listen mr too much
When my life and my family's were in danger in the 70's under the Numeiry regime we never blamed any southerner for it or asked SPLM, which did not even exist, to come and help us. Although the South enjoyed then a peace agreement with the Numeiry regime and were sharing the government with him and his security network. When some of my reltaives were executed after 1989 coupe of al basheer's regime, a large number of Darfuris were working with his regime and serving in NIF's intelligence security network and torture apparatus soem of them now in the JEM. Again we did not blame the entire darfuri people nor even pointed a finger at them. I expect from you my dinka friend not to point the finger at me or at any northerner if albasheer or any northern regime has given you a hard time or you have disagreed with them. Otherwise your movement is only that of a racially motivated movement.
The claim which you made that SPLA/M is owned by one tribe is the most radiculus claim ever.
I am not going to argue with you anymore on this point. The whole SDB and even now the whole Sudan knows what Iam talking about. If you have proof for your claims then proof it. Otherwise if it makes you happy to believe your fantacies then let it be. I shall not object.
marganalized people of sudan who support the SPLA/M have understood that the only way for them to live in a just community is to support the spla/m.
Support the splm is that many of them have formed there own militias including the ones in the south who are fighting for seperation.
Is this why there is an SSDF militia in upper nile?
Why was there a Bari militia in Equatoria?
Why was there SPLM-Nasir made of shilluk & Nuer contingents in mid 90's?
Why did most of the Azande people not fight in the ranks of SPLM?
Why did the beja groups refuse to join till today the SPLM despite desperate calls from the SPLM all long?
How did Kokora start in Equatoria in the mid 80's?
Sir I think the only one tribe supports the SPLM as for the others they are just really supporting the CPA part of self determination and not the SPLM .They are just desprately waiting for Seperation in any means under any movement. Wait after 2011 we will see how many will support the one tribe SPLM movement. Keep patient, me and you hopefully will still be in this board in 2011. And I shall remind you if you still exist here.:flag:
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