I think is very poor to an alarming scale, many new graduated students
struggling in their English to study or find job in other countries,,,,, !!!!!
what is problems?????

I think is very poor to an alarming scale, many new graduated students
struggling in their English to study or find job in other countries,,,,, !!!!!
what is problems?????

Mr, merfi I think if you graduated in Sudan you couldn't get job here with Blue Nile curses. The problem is Islam and Arabic langauge.

Mr, merfi I think if you graduated in Sudan you couldn't get job here with Blue Nile curses. The problem is Islam and Arabic langauge.

Lekye,

Islam isn't the problem, nor is it the Arabic language. It has been the political direction of Sudanese elites- who reflect only a part of Sudan's populace. There are many Muslims outside of Sudan and in Sudan who are perplexed with the goings-on in Sudan. Sultan appears to have it right when he says that Sudan's core need is pluralism. Unfortunately, in the past the state has done so much to enforce its own brand of Arab-Islamism over Sudan.

Its wrong to blame it on Islam, even though I do not agree with islam as a political system, nor do i think you can blame Arabic.
First of all, you are assuming that being able to speak English is a good thing. In this case I agree - and Sudan is actually much better than many arabic-speaking countries.
Secondly, as someone mentioned, we sudan has gone through a process of arabization. i remember in the early nineties when many schools in khartoum were 'arabized' and how many of my friends were complaining about it as one by one they fell to this process. luckily, my school was one of the very few schools that wasn't arabized.
but we must be thankful that the pressure has been lifted recently and many schools are allowed to teach in english now - in all parts of sudan, including the north.

Its wrong to blame it on Islam, even though I do not agree with islam as a political system, nor do i think you can blame Arabic.
First of all, you are assuming that being able to speak English is a good thing. In this case I agree - and Sudan is actually much better than many arabic-speaking countries.
Secondly, as someone mentioned, we sudan has gone through a process of arabization. i remember in the early nineties when many schools in khartoum were 'arabized' and how many of my friends were complaining about it as one by one they fell to this process. luckily, my school was one of the very few schools that wasn't arabized.
but we must be thankful that the pressure has been lifted recently and many schools are allowed to teach in english now - in all parts of sudan, including the north.

yeah because they know they have achieved what they want already...well, atleast in the north which is arabiziing...you think the presure has been lifted? yeah right...beside combony college in khartoum, name some other secondry schools, colleges or univesities in the north that teach in english?

I think is very poor to an alarming scale, many new graduated students
struggling in their English to study or find job in other countries,,,,, !!!!!
what is problems?????

location has no problem with learning language...many of English printers in this SBD have been taught in sudan >>> I think the problem how to teach english in our schools.....:geek:

I think is very poor to an alarming scale, many new graduated students
struggling in their English to study or find job in other countries,,,,, !!!!!
what is problems?????



I blame the education policy which is widely confusing in many aspects
one of them of course is teaching English:confused: .
salaam

yeah because they know they have achieved what they want already...well, atleast in the north which is arabiziing...you think the presure has been lifted? yeah right...beside combony college in khartoum, name some other secondry schools, colleges or univesities in the north that teach in english?

I'm sure there are quite a few! there are many new 'British schools' opening all over khartoum, and some of the Qabbas schools follow an english system. the sudan certificate can now be taken in either arabic and english and they are both accepted. i know this because my mum runs a school! and its an english school!
and i don't believe that the job has been done. the sudanese public still want their children learning good english- if not entirely in english - and soon enough we will see more english schools. like i said, it is already happening!

this is a very good topic!!!!!!!!!

I found these videos...I thougt would tie in with the topic

you guys should watch them...its about the education issues in sudan. very interesting to listen to.
they are 2 seperate videos
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jnaZ41hOBv4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NRZkfbrCTNk

I'm sure there are quite a few! there are many new 'British schools' opening all over khartoum, and some of the Qabbas schools follow an english system. the sudan certificate can now be taken in either arabic and english and they are both accepted. i know this because my mum runs a school! and its an english school!
and i don't believe that the job has been done. the sudanese public still want their children learning good english- if not entirely in english - and soon enough we will see more english schools. like i said, it is already happening!


i go to college here with some northern sudanese who just come from khartoum last semester....they can't barebly speak and understand well the text in english...i try to help them but it didn't well, cuz we can't communicate...they speak arabic or i don't....yeah there might be some slight changes now in the educational system but that was cuz the new ministry of education is from south...i don't even know AL Bashir himself can speak a little english i doubt it...

Thank you very much for every contributor here for the useful input--
with more thanks to *BabyDollXXX* for valuable videos --
with regards

i go to college here with some northern sudanese who just come from khartoum last semester....they can't barebly speak and understand well the text in english...i try to help them but it didn't well, cuz we can't communicate...they speak arabic or i don't....yeah there might be some slight changes now in the educational system but that was cuz the new ministry of education is from south...i don't even know AL Bashir himself can speak a little english i doubt it...

but you can't base your whole impression on a one group of people you know. and the truth is, english language teaching in sudan IS poor, i never said its good! but what i'm saying is it is getting better again now. its supply and demand! there is demand for english education in sudan, and therefore there will be good english education in sudan now that it is allowed.
and th change i am talking about actually started before the CPA, so credit can't really be given to the SPLM. Although i am sure they will be doing a good job.

I think is very poor to an alarming scale, many new graduated students
struggling in their English to study or find job in other countries,,,,, !!!!!
what is problems?????

What is the problem? What do you think is the problem?


How did you know “many new graduated students struggling in their English to study or find job in other countriesâ€‌?
Where did you meet with them, and why didn’t you asked them what is the problem? Don’t you think they would know the answer better than us?